Focal Elegia - Closed Back Headphones - Official Thread

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#37

Well, in terms of figuring out how much compensation to apply, and where, I’ll use a combination of measurements on other rigs, using well-known reference headphones, and figure out something reasonable from there.

After which it’ll just be a case of creating the appropriate compensation file, which once you know what you want is simply down to editing values in a text file. These can be retroactively applied in REW.

Now, this won’t be perfect, but as long as the peak is consistent enough it should give a better correlation to other measurement systems. Though at some point I will probably bite the bullet and invest in a more serious, reference, measurement head and “ear” simulators.

As it stands, I have another rig of my own build - but I figured using the miniDSP EARs for now would at least offer something that stands a chance of resulting in measurements that have some correlation to something easily available to others.


#38

That’s what I kind of figured the answer would be. I used my HE560 as a linear bass reference for making my own compensation curve for EQing.


#39

I’m looking at new pads for a couple of my Sennheiser headphones. A little off topic but I’m trying to understand how the various materials and design of the pads affect the sound. I suppose the experience will differ based on source and listener. Are there in fact some general assumptions?


#40

Dekoni does a good breakdown of how the pads differ from each other and stock for their pads. https://dekoniaudio.com/tag/ear-pads/
Just put the headphone brand and then look for their charts on changes. Then google the pads you want and specify reviews and you can get a pretty big resource for how different people have felt about them.

I’m particular to the Dekoni Hybrid Elites ( I have a set for HD800/HD700/HD58X/X00 Purplehearts). They definitely change the sound profile though and YMMV depending.


#41

@dartpool, how do they affect the 58x (the newest set in my small collection.)?

P.S. should this be moved to a different topic?


#42

This would be the proper forum, I can jump on and give a quick impression later tonight if I get the time =)


#43

Back on track!!! Elegia @Torq not helping my wallet at all with your impressions. I’ll probably pick these up sooner than later. Might have to fudge my budget a bit :wink:


#44

Just before I have to get dressed up as Dr. Who (the 4th Dr. Who … for those that care/know about such things, and, of course, the one true Dr.) … and go party at the Seattle Aquariam …

I have posted my full review of the Focal Elegia. And this time it includes some basic, comparative, measurements both to the rest of the Focal line-up as well as to my other closed-back cans.

I’ll do my best to answer any follow-up questions, but right after the afore-mentioned party, I will be making a dash to the airport for California (where we plan to don mouse-ears and finish up Halloween Disney-style) … so responses may be delayed!


#45

Great write up! Now I need to reconsider my next purchase… I was wanting to pick up a new Macbook or Macmini…but they might have to wait now…@Andrew and @taronlissimore can we limit @Torq from getting access to all this great gear? It’s bad for my wallet :wink: expect a purchase for these here soon from me.


#46

Well… I look forward to getting these in the mail soon lol…


#47

Thanks for the thorough review. This all makes sense, but also validates my decision to buy the Aeon Flow Closed just as the Elegia were announced. As I already have the Elex, the Elegia seemed too similar and not what I wanted for closed headphones.

Many of the characteristics seem roughly the same between the Elegia and AFC (e.g., non-overwhelming bass, listening in a void), but the AFC have a diffuse, gentle, harmonic character in the high range. This is a technical weakness (objectively), but it makes for more engaging and relaxing listening.

Note that I just bought a balanced cable for the AFC and have a balanced cable in the mail for the HD-600s. I intend to do a 3-way comparison between the Elex, AFC, and HD-600s using balanced and standard sources. So far I find the AFC (as closed and full range) to be much more precise and intense with the balanced setup. The profile shifts toward the Elex and becomes brighter and more punchy. The AFC also loses some fullness and diffusion–it becomes peaky and analytical.


#48

Are you talking Tom Baker the one true Doctor? :slightly_smiling_face:. He was the best.


#49

Brilliant review as ever. Made me want to buy a pair and I don’t even want need them. Great write up. Thanks.


#50

But…‘Blink’ was with David Tennant…only the first viewing of Blink counts…


#51

To be honest I think it’s the one you grew up with as a kid that you have a special place for. I liked them all apart from sylvester McCoy (not sure of spelling) and the one from all creatures great and small fame. I can’t be bothered to google it. Sorry. But you get my train of thought though.:grinning:.


#52

I may have actually pulled the trigger on them after reading Ian’s review, but we (fiancee and I) both took yesterday off and decided to go Outlet mall shopping and accumulated the price of an Elegia on clothing and shoes, so there goes my new headphone purchase. lol. I guess clothing is more utilitarian than nice-to-have closed back headphones.


#53

Oh, Tom Baker. Definitely my fave!


#54

Yep, Tom Baker!

Though Tenant would be my 2nd favorite.


#55

What do you need clothes for?:grin:


#56

Most definately you guys. And I agree with your thoughts on David Tennant. To be honest I haven’t minded all of them since the one before Tennant, his name has slipped my mind. Matt Smith was a pleasant surprise too.